Knock Louder and Longer – The Key to Effective Prayer

“Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” ” (Luke 11:1, ESV)

The disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray. What follows inverses 2-13 is Jesus’ answer to that request. His response comes in four parts.

  1. The Model Prayer (vs 2-4)
  2. The Impudent Friend (vs 5-8)
  3. Ask, Seek, Knock (vs 9-10)
  4. The Goodness of the Father (vs 11-13)

While much could be said, and certainly has been said, about each of these sections, I want to focus upon a theme Jesus introduces in the hypothetical story about The Impudent Friend (vs 5-8) that carries over into the next section about asking, seeking, and knocking. Here is the story:

“And he said to them, “Which of you who has a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves, for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; and he will answer from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed. I cannot get up and give you anything’? I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his impudence he will rise and give him whatever he needs. ” (Luke 11:5–8, ESV)

It is important that we keep the context in mind. Jesus is answering the disciples request that he teach them to pray. This story is a direct answer to that inquiry. Jesus is telling us, through this story, something extremely important about prayer.

I love the raw honesty portrayed in this tale. For, if we are truly honest, this story tells us exactly what the experience of prayer often feels like. When we first begin to pray, we sometimes experience what seems to be resistance. In the story, the neighbor tells us to go away. It’s late. His kids are asleep. He is busy and other things are more important than us. It is important to note that in this story, Jesus is not telling us what God is like. He is telling us what prayer is like. His point isn’t that God is too busy and can’t be bothered with our request. His point is that when we begin to pray, we feel like this is the case. This story first describes what we commonly experience when we pray. He then tell us that the key to effective prayer is to press through this initial feeling of resistance.

In the story, the neighbor is our friend. But Jesus overtly makes the point that this friendship alone is insufficient for prayer to be successful. Jesus says that the friendship is not the basis for the answered request. According to Jesus, “impudence” is the reason the prayer is answered. What is impudence?

Webster defines “impudent” as “marked by contemptuous or cocky boldness or disregard of others, insolent.” The root meaning of the English word means “shameless”. Obviously, the New Testament wasn’t written in English. So let’s investigate to see if the Greek might give us additional insight. The following definition is from The Complete Word Study Dictionary, New Testament edited by Spiros Zodhiates, Th.D.

335. anaídeia; gen. anaideías, fem. noun from anaid?s (n.f.), impudent, which is from the priv. a (1), without, and aidos (127), shame. Recklessness, audacity, shamelessness, insolence. Recklessness or disregard of consideration by the one making the request.

As in the English and Latin, the Greek word used here also carries the literal meaning of “shameless”. Is it possible that Jesus is saying that the key to effective prayer is to pray with a contemptuous, cocky boldness, along with insolence, recklessness, shamelessness, and a complete disregard of consideration? Yes. That is precisely what the text of scripture says.

If this kind of praying is, according to Jesus, the key to answered prayer, is it possible that we lack answers to prayer simply because we refuse to pray in this manner?

Again, let me clarify. I do not believe Jesus is telling us what God is like. The point here isn’t that God is reluctant to respond to us. We are not being asked to wear God out through sheer annoyance until he finally gives in. The purpose of impudence in prayer is not to convince a reluctant God. Jesus isn’t describing what God is like. He is describing what prayer is like. When we pray, we initially experience resistance. It feels hard. God seems far away and reluctant sometimes (though he isn’t). Impudence is what is necessary to overcome this experience of resistance. Only with a bold, persistant disregard for this initial experience of resistance are we able to press beyond it.

In the following section Jesus talks about asking, seeking, and knocking, with the promise of receiving, finding, and opening as the guaranteed result. In this section I want to point out that the relevant verb tense in these verses implies continual action. We are to ask and keep on asking. How are we to ask? How are we to seek? How are we to knock? With boldness. Without shame. With persistence. With total disregard to any feeling of resistance, inappropriateness, or doubt.  With impudence!!!

If prayer often feels like an exercise in pushing through strong resistence, and if an attitude of impudence is what is required to push through this feeling of resistance and rebuff, then what is on the other side of our bold persistance that makes all this effort worthwhile? Jesus’ answer: a good Father.

“What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” ” (Luke 11:11–13, ESV)

Do you want to experience your good heavenly Father who delights to give good gifts to his children? To get there you might have to press past the experiential difficulties that often accompany prayer. You will initially feel resisted. You will feel rebuffed. This is what prayer is like. But do not give up. Ask more, keep seeking, knock louder, not because God is reluctant, hiding, or deaf, but because you are so convinced that he is eager, present, and responsive that you won’t allow anything but your confidence in his goodness to deter you.

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Alan Smith is the Pastor of Freedom Ministries at Gateway Church and is passionate about helping others become the people God created and redeemed them to be. Whether teaching a Freedom Ministry class, ministering to individuals, teaching at Kairos, or training others to minister freedom, he loves to see people experience the healing and deliverance only Jesus can give! He previously served as Associate Pastor for Gateway Equip, the adult discipleship program at Gateway.

21 Comments

Anna Davenport

2011-04-11 14:36:58 Reply

THANK YOU!
(For clarifying that this is about my experience with prayer, and not about what God is like.)

Ineffable Jeff

2011-04-11 14:44:47 Reply

Hey! I’ve gotten plenty scorpions in response to my prayers for an egg. It just turns out that scorpions are particularly excellent over rice! I kid, but it’s not uncommon to ask for a good thing (as defined by God) and still get something else. It’s still a good thing, but perhaps not what you were asking for. I say this in supplement to your excellent post, not in contention with it. Your insight is without reproach.

Karen DeArmond~Gardner

2011-04-11 20:52:58 Reply

I love your insight to take me beyond what my eyes see and my ears think they hear. I remember as a teen making my requests to my mother and if it was something I wanted I was persistent and unrelenting to get what I wanted. I do not always approach prayer in the same way though I will going forward.

This boy can preach!!

Melody

2011-04-11 22:03:54 Reply

I was just reading this passage this morning and was confused by it- THANK YOU for the clarification! I’ve been asking for something for 7 years now, and I just got the “go ahead” to keep on asking.

Lorea

2011-04-12 16:05:31 Reply

“With total disregard to any feeling of resistance, inappropriateness, or doubt.” What if we get “No”? How do we know when the “No” means “No” or when it means to keep going? A feeling is very often wrong.

“Only with a bold, persistant disregard for this initial experience of resistance are we able to press beyond it.” On one hand, I am told to hear, obey and submit and now I’m being to told the flip opposite.

Is it okay if I feel like I should stand stock still, ask nothing, seek nothing and pray that my time with God comes quickly? Or should I find it all joy that confusion is a message I should welcome as part of my time on this earth?

    Alan Smith

    2011-04-12 19:47:37 Reply

    Wow. I’m reading some hurt here. I encourage you to go back to the passage itself and wrestle through it. Jesus is certainly teaching us something of value about prayer in the passage. I somehow doubt that what you are suggesting above is his intended result. Thanks for the comment!

Lorea

2011-04-12 20:59:43 Reply

Yep, hurting. Confused. Seeking. And no, my response is NOT what His intended results are when He taught these passages. (mixed tenses intended)

As for prayer, if it means talking to God formally and causally, in English and in tongues, out loud and in my head, for others and myself, I do it morning, noon and night. I ask for His will and for things I want. So, I think I understand that part of the impudent friend. But I still am confused on this particular subject. Just sometimes I feel like I am pounding on Door #3 and what He wants for me is behind Curtain #2, but I don’t know that and He isn’t telling me either.

    Alan Smith

    2011-04-12 21:57:09 Reply

    Which, I think, is the exact reality Jesus is describing. His point? Don’t quit.

Steve Whitson

2011-04-13 17:08:32 Reply

Alan,
I appreciate this message from the perspective that God want us to participate and pray.
I must share, however, that there seems to be a level of performance and law in this reflection.
The subtle implication in the title “Knock Louder and Longer” can lead a person to believe that they need to keep asking louder and with more persistence on a performance basis (i.e. – if I keep praying then God will hear me and answer.).
This is not praying with our birthright as sons and daughters.
I suggest you read and/or listen to John Sheadsby’s teaching “Praying As Sons” – found on his website under the November 2009 Seed to Seed.
John Sheasby Liberated Living Ministries
KEY CONCEPT: If the man reluctantly answers the request of his friend on the outside, how much more eagerly will he answer the request of his children on the inside? The friend standing at the door has to knock; the children lying next to him in bed have only to whisper. The one has to persist; the other has only to tug on his nightshirt. Pg 102
December 21, 2010 at 2:30pm
I appreciate your heart to encourage prayer but respectfully submit that some people will receive this as if they only prayed (performed) differently then God would answer their prayer. If received in this way, this is not the Freedom / Birthright that Jesus obtained for us.
In Love, Steve

    Alan Smith

    2011-04-13 21:31:01 Reply

    Steve – thanks for your input. I would ask you to read my post again. Twice in the post I went out of my way to explicitly say that Jesus is describing what prayer is like, not what God is like. For you to suggest that my post will lead people to believe that by praying louder and longer we will somehow earn God’s attention seems a failure to adequately give attention to this significant emphasis within the post. I quote below:

    “It is important to note that in this story, Jesus is not telling us what God is like. He is telling us what prayer is like. His point isn’t that God is too busy and can’t be bothered with our request. His point is that when we begin to pray, we feel like this is the case. This story first describes what we commonly experience when we pray. He then tell us that the key to effective prayer is to press through this initial feeling of resistance.”

    “Again, let me clarify. I do not believe Jesus is telling us what God is like. The point here isn’t that God is reluctant to respond to us. We are not being asked to wear God out through sheer annoyance until he finally gives in. The purpose of impudence in prayer is not to convince a reluctant God. Jesus isn’t describing what God is like. He is describing what prayer is like. When we pray, we initially experience resistance. It feels hard. God seems far away and reluctant sometimes (though he isn’t). Impudence is what is necessary to overcome this experience of resistance.”

    Please help me square the above two quotes with your concerns. I fail to see how they aren’t already anticipated and addressed within the post above. If your concern goes deeper, toward a desire to not hold up the value of impudence in prayer, then the question becomes “what, then, is the point of Jesus’ story?”, for it is Jesus who told the story and he must have had some point.

    Thanks again for interacting about this. Would love better understand your concerns. Blessings, Alan.

    Alan Smith

    2011-04-13 21:49:39 Reply

    One additional reply…

    You suggested that praying from a position of “sonship” would be a better approach. I quote my post:

    “If prayer often feels like an exercise in pushing through strong resistence, and if an attitude of impudence is what is required to push through this feeling of resistance and rebuff, then what is on the other side of our bold persistance that makes all this effort worthwhile? Jesus’ answer: a good Father.

    “What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” ” (Luke 11:11–13, ESV)”

    My post overtly focuses at its very conclusion on the reality that it is a revelation of God as our good Father that provides the appropriate target for pushing impudently past any sense of resistance with great confidence.

Steve Whitson

2011-04-13 17:10:51 Reply

The “Praying As Sons” message can be found on Liberated Living’s website with the following link:
http://www.liberatedliving.com/audio/sts/STSNOV2009.mp3

Jeremy Barnes

2011-04-13 22:49:50 Reply

Alan, I love this post. I think Steve’s point on sonship & yours are one in the same…sons are unashamed in asking of their Father. It’s the natural outflow of relationship and love. Regarding Lorea’s comment, I would suggest that even when you get a “no” it doesn’t signal the end of the discussion. There are multiple examples of people in Scripture who pressed through a no, in the context of relationship, and they received what they asked. Sometimes God’s no is an invitation to conversation.

Tamara Stevens

2011-04-14 07:28:19 Reply

Alan,

This has been a very thought provoking post. At first read, I felt a bit as though you had twisted that passage a bit. As I re-read and read all the posts above, I saw that it was the word “impudence” that I was troubled by. When John and I were discussing this post, the most important point we discussed is that we “approach the throne with boldness” as you stated on the other side is our “loving Father.” I think impudence here is what we must do even if we don’t “feel” like it in order to approach God with boldness as sons and daughters. I think that the problem we all have is not truly grasping our place as HIS children and knowing that we will have what we ask if we believe. We have to know whose we are and impudence in prayer is a reflection of that knowing. If we don’t know, as I think the hearers of Jesus’ story didn’t know, then we must pray with impudence in order to discover our loving Father on the other side which will increase our faith and knowing of whose we are.

Your thoughts and analysis are right on target and even though I have heard this passage many times, I learned something new. Thanks!

Tamara

    Alan Smith

    2011-04-14 09:42:17 Reply

    Thanks Tamara. I appreciate you wrestling through it like that. And I think your reflections are spot on.

Steve Whitson

2011-04-14 12:32:25 Reply

Yes, I agree with both Jeremy and Tamara. Alan we are making the same point.
To clarify a bit what I am really saying is what Tamara so clearly articulated. We have to know who we are as sons and daughters and when we do we can come boldy. (Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16).
We come boldly because of what Jesus has done not because our boldness or persistence allows God to hear us better and respond to our prayers.
Alan, unfortunately I am in an ongoing discussion with friends who believe that it is what we do in prayer / how we pray that effects our prayer. One person referred to this blog to make that point.

Thanks for your clarification of us having access to a Good Father!
Love, Steve

Fernanda Geller

2011-04-16 22:19:30 Reply

Thanks for posting this Alan… great to understand this passage a little more!!! What an encouragement to keep praying…. and with boldness!!!

Josiah C

2011-04-18 13:01:05 Reply

Thank you for this post! It is a good reminder of pushing through the discomfort that prayer sometimes presents. In humble regard to some of the comments made, I think it is also good to remember who His audience was: good, strong-willed Jews. They knew works and they knew impudence, but they didn’t know well a deep, personal relationship with their heavenly Father. I think Jesus was engaging them in some good therapy to revitalize their view of the Father. They were fearful, that’s why I think they asked Jesus for help in how to pray. Someone who is fearful of the person they’re asking, is going to have a lot of discomfort initially when trying to make their request. Which I believe you have addressed tremendously well in this post, great stuff, keep it coming! :D

Brother Rodney

2011-05-02 20:03:54 Reply

Pastor Alan,

This post so explains my approach to prayer in the worst times of my life. But I totally understand the enriched effective honest reproach revealed that you have stated in this post. This mechanism of prayer, is available to us always, at any time.

Wow, the authority and the power..

He is good.

He so good..

Oh Father, how you speak through Pastor Alan Smith..

Thank You Holy Spirit for this Gift, in Jesus Name, Amen.

Brother Rodney

2011-05-03 07:17:21 Reply

Good Morning,

God has reminded me this morning of my use of this gift this morning, pouring into the Mor High School students. They “come” in the nature as the scripture references. I pour as God leads. But God makes me realize this mourning regarding myself. Rodney, “I Am” inexhaustible, unlimited, and everlasting. Life(the world) will try to make you forget that. Ok Son?

Yes Abba

Betty Nyawira

2013-02-09 09:09:18 Reply

God bless you Pastor Alan.

I really needed to hear this. I have had a hard time with prayer the last couple of days. But this morning God helped me to press through those feelings and pray for real like I used to. I thank Him for leading me to this website. What a blessing!

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